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In the movie, sure.

In the books, it's said that Sauron controls the weather in Mordor, and we all know that both Blizzard and Thunder are Super Effective against Flying types.

Also, they'd just end up with the Eagles dropping them all to their deaths and taking the Ring off of Frodo's corpse. I for one, do not welcome out winged overlords.

Darth Rabbitt wrote:In the movie, sure.

In the books, it's said that Sauron controls the weather in Mordor, and we all know that both Blizzard and Thunder are Super Effective against Flying types.

And he has the Ringwraiths, and their mounts can fly, and once you get close enough they're just going to go "BOSS! LOOK OVER HERE! FIRE THE EYE OF SAURON!"

And then Sauron goes LOOK INTO MY EYE, AND PERISH and it just doesn't work out well for the Fellowship.

Maxus wrote:

Darth Rabbitt wrote:In the movie, sure.

In the books, it's said that Sauron controls the weather in Mordor, and we all know that both Blizzard and Thunder are Super Effective against Flying types.

And he has the Ringwraiths, and their mounts can fly, and once you get close enough they're just going to go "BOSS! LOOK OVER HERE! FIRE THE EYE OF SAURON!"

And then Sauron goes LOOK INTO MY EYE, AND PERISH and it just doesn't work out well for the Fellowship.

On the other hand, the giant glowing eye thing was entirely bullshit made up for the movies so that people could see the omnipresent influence of Sauron on Mordor (by making it not omnipresent).

So you know, if your strategy requires Sauron to be a giant eye that fires lazers, your strategy is basically nonsense.

Kaelik wrote:

Maxus wrote:

Darth Rabbitt wrote:In the movie, sure.

In the books, it's said that Sauron controls the weather in Mordor, and we all know that both Blizzard and Thunder are Super Effective against Flying types.

And he has the Ringwraiths, and their mounts can fly, and once you get close enough they're just going to go "BOSS! LOOK OVER HERE! FIRE THE EYE OF SAURON!"

And then Sauron goes LOOK INTO MY EYE, AND PERISH and it just doesn't work out well for the Fellowship.

On the other hand, the giant glowing eye thing was entirely bullshit made up for the movies so that people could see the omnipresent influence of Sauron on Mordor (by making it not omnipresent).

So you know, if your strategy requires Sauron to be a giant eye that fires lazers, your strategy is basically nonsense.

You're just jealous my Sauron is cooler than your Sauron.

(But seriously: I reckon the flying ringwraiths would be a problem with an aerial assault on Mordor. And crossing the border with the Ring would be a big fuckin' clue as to what you're planning on doing with it.(

Maxus wrote:(But seriously: I reckon the flying ringwraiths would be a problem with an aerial assault on Mordor. And crossing the border with the Ring would be a big fuckin' clue as to what you're planning on doing with it.(

Maybe, maybe not, but it's all conjecture, because we don't know how many FelBeasts there are (or if they can even be controlled without RingWraiths), or how they would fair against a number of eagles between 5 and 500, because we also don't know how many eagles there are. Also, aside from size, we have no way of evaluating the combat strength of either against other fliers.

More importantly, for all we know the Eagles can cross all of Mordor from edge to Mount Doom in like a minute, and the FelBeasts/Sauron's ability to notice an assault won't be fast enough to provide an appropriate response. Or he could see them coming from 500 miles outside Mordor and they would take a day to get to Mount Doom, and he could release and control 500 FelBeasts.

Saying the Eagles strategy can or can't work basically has to be completely bullshit, because you can't possibly have the information to be able to comment on any particular strategy.

Kaelik wrote:

Maxus wrote:(But seriously: I reckon the flying ringwraiths would be a problem with an aerial assault on Mordor. And crossing the border with the Ring would be a big fuckin' clue as to what you're planning on doing with it.(

Maybe, maybe not, but it's all conjecture, because we don't know how many FelBeasts there are (or if they can even be controlled without RingWraiths), or how they would fair against a number of eagles between 5 and 500, because we also don't know how many eagles there are. Also, aside from size, we have no way of evaluating the combat strength of either against other fliers.

More importantly, for all we know the Eagles can cross all of Mordor from edge to Mount Doom in like a minute, and the FelBeasts/Sauron's ability to notice an assault won't be fast enough to provide an appropriate response. Or he could see them coming from 500 miles outside Mordor and they would take a day to get to Mount Doom, and he could release and control 500 FelBeasts.

Saying the Eagles strategy can or can't work basically has to be completely bullshit, because you can't possibly have the information to be able to comment on any particular strategy.

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There remains the problem that no one can willingly throw the Ring into Mount Doom, and the closer you get to the volcano, the stronger its influence becomes. The Eagles wouldn't be immune. Even Samwise was having fantasies about using the Ring to make the best garden ever.

hyzmarca wrote:There remains the problem that no one can willingly throw the Ring into Mount Doom, and the closer you get to the volcano, the stronger its influence becomes. The Eagles wouldn't be immune. Even Samwise was having fantasies about using the Ring to make the best garden ever.

That's also complete bullshit. We know the Ring's influence grows with time, Frodo carried the Ring forever, Sam carried it for quite a while off and on.

Any statement that "no one" could drop the ring is bullshit, if someone had the ring for 5 minutes, there is no reason to think they would be incapable unless you are positing they have the weakest mind ever. And the Eagles would never possess the ring at all, clearly gandalf must have at least thought that being near someone else who has the ring has between zero and drastically reduced influence, or else he wouldn't have okayed a travel strat where he spends all his time with the person with the ring.

If the eagles never have the ring, there is no reason to believe they would somehow refuse to fly near Mt. Doom where someone else could drop the ring, and there's no reason to think that a drastically reduced time of possession wouldn't result in a different result, or fuck, having Gandalf yell at you is probably different than having Samwise Plead.

To say the strategy can't or can work, you have to make stuff up, and you are making up some even dumber shit. At least we know FelBeasts exist and look strong and stuff, there is zero fucking evidence that proximity to Mt. Doom is the key determination, as opposed to length of time, or for that matter, the fact that Frodo never willingly surrendered the Ring once (He offered once) ever, so him willingly dropping it would actually be a first period, which could have just as easily not happened in the Shire. (In fact, it totally did happen in the shire, because Bilbo made huge elaborate plans to give up the ring, and then still wouldn't have if Gandalf didn't show up to shame him into it).

Much less that you now have to decide that the eagles are easier to influence than Boromir by several orders of magnitude, since they would spend less time around the ring bearer, and you are asserting a level of corruption that didn't even hit Frodo (avoiding the entire mountain).

Shit. This thread needs some antidote from my last image.

erik wrote:

That's just a terrible question. It's actually funny, but it's literally impossible for the family that gets it to lose.

Six dwarves to chose from (we can safely eliminate Doc up front) 4 correct answers, one revealed in the initial faceoff, three strikes. That's 5 potential choices, of which 3 are correct and 2 are wrong. The round is only passed to the other team if you get three wrong.

hyzmarca wrote:

erik wrote:

That's just a terrible question. It's actually funny, but it's literally impossible for the family that gets it to lose.

Six dwarves to chose from (we can safely eliminate Doc up front) 4 correct answers, one revealed in the initial faceoff, three strikes. That's 5 potential choices, of which 3 are correct and 2 are wrong. The round is only passed to the other team if you get three wrong.

Jokes on you, they got 4 right answer and one wrong answer and the one wrong answer was "Lazy" you assume that family feud contestants can name all seven dwarves.

The answers where: Happy, Sleepy, Bashful, and Grumpy.

Which puts the refusal to answer in new light, since it basically means that neither of those guys remembered that Happy was a Dwarf.

Also, it's one which, well, that happens at the podium. I looked up a clip and eventually the marine hazards a play, prefacing it with "just to get on the board."

However, as for number of answers, remember, it's what people respond to the survey with, not actual fact. I've seen "spider" score big when a question asked for an "insect"

erik wrote:Shit. This thread needs some antidote from my last image.

Fun fact: The sedia stercoraria, the chair used in coronation new Popes, is actually an Ancient Roman toilet. There's a rectangular space below the seat for a chamber pot.

The rumors about it being a testicle-checking chair are untrue.

It's just that the oldest and fanciest chair they could find with an ancient rich guy's personal toilet. And they used it because it was very old and somewhat fancy.

Some opponents of Christianity argued it was an ancient birth-chair.

A bit late to the party but

Darth Rabbitt wrote:In the movie, sure.

In the books, it's said that Sauron controls the weather in Mordor, and we all know that both Blizzard and Thunder are Super Effective against Flying types.

Besides that, I remember the books basically saying that the giant eagles consider giving rides beneath them and won't work as flying transports every time you ask them, with the Gandalf rescue having been more of a stroke of luck than something they can rely on.

Despite the threat of Sauron covering the world in darkness. Which is a recurring theme, since also most elves/dwarves and Tom Bombadill mostly keep to their domains and don't give much support either.

What if the eagle just picks up Frodo, who holds the ring so the eagle is not tempted, then throws him into the volcano.

Or they could've given it to Tom Bombadil to dance his way into Mordor.